The school summary scores include opt-outs, but if you look at grade level summaries you can see the pass rates with opt-outs excluded. The APP@Lincoln pass rates seemed lower than usual (compared to MSP), but once you exclude opt-outs the results are much better. Thurgood Marshall had relatively few-opts. JAMS, HIMS, and WMS all had a significant number of opt-outs.
If I'm reading correctly, all third graders at Lincoln passed with 3s and 4s, and the breakdown of 3s versus 4s was exactly the same between ELA and math (13 students).
It's not the same 13 kids, though, if that's what you're thinking. Broken down by gender, it's almost completely opposite in ELA vs math, with the predictable gender split.
We will be. This test is the most useless waste of time and money! Do you have any idea which classrooms are teaching which common core standard well? I don't. No one does. What a waste. I'm ready to defeat a levy after seeing this horrific waste.
Agreed. I wish Lincoln data looked more like Thorton Creek. We need to make it happen next year. This was of absolutely zero benefit to our students and teachers.
Thornton Creek certainly showed some solidarity in their opposition to the test, with almost 90% "no scores" in 3rd grade (no official opt outs, just lots of excused absences).
How does that work, though? I thought the school was required to administer makeups to absent students? They would have had to rack up a lot of absences to miss all of the days when makeups would have been required.
I question the Amplify tests usefulness too. Given the abysmal scores on those, but the majority of 4s on the SBA, the results don't even track with each other.
I've met some of the folks who score the SBAs. What randomness. Yes definitely opting out of SBA and Amplify next year. Benefit 1: reduction in head lice transmission. Benefit 2: more reading time, and a chance to learn something. I'm out. And defeating a levy might help too.
This freshman class is the first of the really huge APP classes at Hamilton (and Washington and Jane Adams), all of those APP students having preferential access to Garfield. Before the split, the APP classes coming out of Washington had 100-125 kids entering Garfield, for years. Those numbers are much higher now, reflecting the growth of APP. Garfield has room for 1600. Two entering classes over 500 students is going to max the place out of control. Something will have to give.
Those are super double secret. If your sophomore took the test and scored a three or four, you might not make them take it as a junior and the machine needs that data.
Lynn, ha! So letter writing to the district it is. I told my kiddo that when he maxed out the scores on the MAP, there was no point in him taking it anymore. So he did. Then they switched the test to the SBAC. And the Amplify Beacon. But they still gave him the MAP so they could "test" the scores on the SBAC to see how they aligned. That's a lot of testing.
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I'm curious - my 10th grader took the ELA, but I don't see a result for that grade.
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ReplyDeleteThe school summary scores include opt-outs, but if you look at grade level summaries you can see the pass rates with opt-outs excluded. The APP@Lincoln pass rates seemed lower than usual (compared to MSP), but once you exclude opt-outs the results are much better. Thurgood Marshall had relatively few-opts. JAMS, HIMS, and WMS all had a significant number of opt-outs.
If I'm reading correctly, all third graders at Lincoln passed with 3s and 4s, and the breakdown of 3s versus 4s was exactly the same between ELA and math (13 students).
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It's not the same 13 kids, though, if that's what you're thinking. Broken down by gender, it's almost completely opposite in ELA vs math, with the predictable gender split.
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There is no APP breakout for Fairmount Park. Interesting. I hate this test.
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ReplyDeleteWe will be. This test is the most useless waste of time and money! Do you have any idea which classrooms are teaching which common core standard well? I don't. No one does. What a waste. I'm ready to defeat a levy after seeing this horrific waste.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. I wish Lincoln data looked more like Thorton Creek. We need to make it happen next year. This was of absolutely zero benefit to our students and teachers.
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ReplyDeleteThornton Creek certainly showed some solidarity in their opposition to the test, with almost 90% "no scores" in 3rd grade (no official opt outs, just lots of excused absences).
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How does that work, though? I thought the school was required to administer makeups to absent students? They would have had to rack up a lot of absences to miss all of the days when makeups would have been required.
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I question the Amplify tests usefulness too. Given the abysmal scores on those, but the majority of 4s on the SBA, the results don't even track with each other.
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I've met some of the folks who score the SBAs. What randomness. Yes definitely opting out of SBA and Amplify next year. Benefit 1: reduction in head lice transmission. Benefit 2: more reading time, and a chance to learn something. I'm out. And defeating a levy might help too.
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out why aren't you a troll?
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This freshman class is the first of the really huge APP classes at Hamilton (and Washington and Jane Adams), all of those APP students having preferential access to Garfield. Before the split, the APP classes coming out of Washington had 100-125 kids entering Garfield, for years. Those numbers are much higher now, reflecting the growth of APP. Garfield has room for 1600. Two entering classes over 500 students is going to max the place out of control. Something will have to give.
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How does one look up the SBAC scores for your own child, not just the OPSI scores? The source is finally online, and I only see MAP and MSP.
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Those are super double secret. If your sophomore took the test and scored a three or four, you might not make them take it as a junior and the machine needs that data.
ReplyDeleteLynn, ha! So letter writing to the district it is. I told my kiddo that when he maxed out the scores on the MAP, there was no point in him taking it anymore. So he did. Then they switched the test to the SBAC. And the Amplify Beacon. But they still gave him the MAP so they could "test" the scores on the SBAC to see how they aligned. That's a lot of testing.
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