tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post3092153722731499374..comments2024-02-28T22:24:07.299-08:00Comments on Community Forum for HCC (APP) in Seattle Schools: Start of schoolAndrew Siegelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06830585083467140758noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-89112513088323755992014-09-21T11:19:36.133-07:002014-09-21T11:19:36.133-07:00My son can go to Lincoln next year, but is really ...My son can go to Lincoln next year, but is really into sports needs his outdoor running/climbing time. How is Lincoln in these areas??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-5970900059103281812014-09-21T11:19:19.757-07:002014-09-21T11:19:19.757-07:00My son can go to Lincoln next year, but is really ...My son can go to Lincoln next year, but is really into sports needs his outdoor running/climbing time. How is Lincoln in these areas?? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-57819146201616287302014-09-08T20:53:24.694-07:002014-09-08T20:53:24.694-07:00Glad to hear that Fairmount Park is off to a great...Glad to hear that Fairmount Park is off to a great start, I am sure that it will flourish under Julie's leadership. We stayed at TM, WS families that also stayed have kids in older grades or siblings...upside of so few WS kids is a short bus ride. And, so far so good at TM this year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-27927831982713676752014-09-06T15:41:02.771-07:002014-09-06T15:41:02.771-07:00Before calling a person a troll, I recommend looki...Before calling a person a troll, I recommend looking at data, like the annual climate survey. Usually it's pretty telling about the school environment for students, parents and staff, respectively. It's readily available on the SPS website (though it seems to be jumbled on their site, so a web search might prove more helpful.) It's a significant part of how we made the decision about where to send our kids to school this year. (I say this as a teacher myself.) All of the sites that offer APP are listed.<br /><br />-Just the Facts, Ma'amAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-69462928956883896892014-09-04T12:18:57.515-07:002014-09-04T12:18:57.515-07:00I would take Amazon book reviews with a grain of s...I would take Amazon book reviews with a grain of salt, especially with what was selected to post here. Christianity still predominates in the US. Given the occasional Jesus loves you message scrawled on my kids' old ES bathrooms, it thrives underground too. I really don't think you have much to fear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-64254453136452096412014-09-04T07:17:31.767-07:002014-09-04T07:17:31.767-07:00We had a great first day at Fairmount Park. Julie ...We had a great first day at Fairmount Park. Julie reported that last year there were over 60 West Seattle students at Thurgood Marshall and this year there are 11 or 12. Lynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-15822113623477898472014-09-03T13:59:00.503-07:002014-09-03T13:59:00.503-07:00Yes, LA /SS is unblocked at HIMS starting this yea...Yes, LA /SS is unblocked at HIMS starting this year.<br /><br />HIMSmomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-40253146782393186082014-09-03T12:21:54.543-07:002014-09-03T12:21:54.543-07:00My understanding from an announcement by the princ...My understanding from an announcement by the principal last Spring was that HIMS would no longer be blocking LA/SS. Has that been changed. I don't even see a teacher listed on my kid's schedule for LA. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-35607254265563230152014-09-03T09:30:27.469-07:002014-09-03T09:30:27.469-07:00A 2009 Amazon review:
7 chapters on Islam, compar...A 2009 Amazon review:<br /><br /><i>7 chapters on Islam, compared with half a paragraph on Christianity in the 6th grade book. Less than a page on any of the other religions. even if you ignore the biased, positive only description of islam and even jihad, the historical descriptions throughout the series are factually wrong in at least 12 areas within the 6th grade and 7th grade books alone. One of the principal contributors is a professor from Cal State known as an apologist for Islamic radicalism. the curriculum was pulled from Arizona after parent complaints and is currently being pulled in Texas.</i><br /><br />Okay...so has the text been updated since then?<br /><br />A 2013 Amazon review:<br /><br /><i>Less than halfway through this "textbook" I fell back in my chair with my mouth hanging open. My list of thoughts and notes from reading had grown to five pages of errors I had spotted just on a first reading. I kept thinking that at some point in the next chapter, the author would have a sentence in bold type that shouted, "HA! Gotchya! Just kidding! Send in this coupon for a full refund of this silly satire of history." But, it never appeared. (I scanned through the rest of the book just to be sure.)<br /><br />This book is a total waste of time. Don't bother. And don't confuse your kids.</i><br /><br />And another:<br /><br /><i>History Alive is incredibly biased. The book begins with a chapter on the contributions of Roman civilization, which credit Rome for all kinds of things. That is followed by five chapters on Medieval Europe, which credit Christianity for practically nothing. (Jesus gets less than a single ambiguous paragraph.) Everything good in Europe, came from Greece and Rome. Much of the evil, is unambiguously ascribed to "the Church." (Never mind the many in-depth treatments of how Christian thought influenced the rise of science, the spread of education, the withering of slavery, lent Europe coherence, and of course lent the continent so much great visual art, literature, and architecture.)<br /><br />Islam gets an entirely different sort of treatment. Mohammed is treated to an entire hagiographic chapter. Islamic doctrines are repeated gushily, without a hint of critical thought. All of Mohammed's crimes are whitewashed or (far more often) just ignored.</i><br /><br />If this is the text selected, I'm not sure what to think...I'm now interested in seeing the chosen texts firsthand.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-55576224608371505862014-09-03T08:30:19.853-07:002014-09-03T08:30:19.853-07:00Does anyone know if LA/SS at Hamilton is still in ...Does anyone know if LA/SS at Hamilton is still in blocks? I can't tell if my 7th grader has a split block (he has a class in between, so I suspect not), or if they're not blocking those classes anymore.<br />Thanks, HIMS momAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-12775843161092155922014-09-02T22:50:12.908-07:002014-09-02T22:50:12.908-07:00I stopped by our daughter’s second grade classroom...I stopped by our daughter’s second grade classroom today at Lincoln, and from initial appearances, it seemed encouraging: 23 students; a friendly teacher that’s been there four years; a nice looking spacious classroom with tons of windows and natural light; new 4th grade Math-N-Focus books, etc.New APP Parentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-20395709502379021532014-09-02T21:49:32.475-07:002014-09-02T21:49:32.475-07:00Also, consider that math placement is not always b...Also, consider that math placement is not always based on ability - it is often dictated by capacity. In other words, you might likely be more poorly served by APP in both middle school and at Lincoln. We certainly have been poorly served by APP at HIMS. I think both Jane Addams (untried but with better policies) or WMS would be better choices than NIMS. Very little challenge there. We've had to supplement and homeschool quite extensively.<br /><br />-HIMSparentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-68796195604252457542014-09-02T21:28:18.853-07:002014-09-02T21:28:18.853-07:00Thank you for your feedback. I really appreciate i...Thank you for your feedback. I really appreciate it. My gut instinct is to wait but I waffle constantly. I know my kid is not easy to deal with no matter where they are! I know nothing of trolls.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-73606805905324884452014-09-02T20:41:11.376-07:002014-09-02T20:41:11.376-07:00Trolls? Trolls? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-51317657037785643632014-09-02T20:12:56.852-07:002014-09-02T20:12:56.852-07:00Hi trolls!Hi trolls!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-55219704798325401492014-09-02T19:59:31.299-07:002014-09-02T19:59:31.299-07:00I'd wait.
Lincoln/APP 'ain't all that...I'd wait.<br /><br />Lincoln/APP 'ain't all that'. Honestly. <br /><br />Let him have one more happy, final year at his school/home away from home with all his chums (and possibly his short commute), and jump in middle school.<br /><br /><br />Seriously, you want to push him into a school of 850 that will be severely impacted with overcrowding, no playground, and construction? If you are not sure, I urge you to come on the first day tomorrow at drop off and pick up, and try and watch lunch, then decide if you want your kid in that. No body would knowingly endure that at all unless you truly have no choice. There will be loads of APP parents who will rush in to put lipstick on this pig, but really, just look at teacher turnover and maybe you'll understand all is not so rosy. <br /><br />-good luckAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-15990339343850173562014-09-02T13:13:11.933-07:002014-09-02T13:13:11.933-07:00I'd wait. If your child is socially happy and ...I'd wait. If your child is socially happy and his/her needs are being met in the neighborhood school (with possible supplementation at home, if there's an academic desire to move faster) there's no reason to switch. At middle school, about half the incoming HCC/APP 6th graders will be new to the program, so it's easy to jump in then. And since middle school math levels vary by ability, it's not a problem if some of those coming from Lincoln are a bit ahead in that one subject. <br /><br />HIMSmomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-42599036877286037672014-09-02T13:08:50.766-07:002014-09-02T13:08:50.766-07:00Other than his friends, what are the reasons to mo...Other than his friends, what are the reasons to move him or not move him? Is he being challenged enough in Spectrum math and other subjects? Did you get a good teacher this year at your neighborhood school? There are many factors to consider.<br /><br />Honestly, if you're second guessing yourself for this year, then you may really be wanting to move him to Lincoln. <br /><br />-midnightAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-74170481187771668502014-09-02T12:44:50.972-07:002014-09-02T12:44:50.972-07:00Wading through all of the comments about Lincoln, ...Wading through all of the comments about Lincoln, Middle School and High School. I have a question for experienced parents. Would you move your child from a school with Spectrum Math in 4th Grade to Lincoln if they were qualified for APP and the child did not want to move away from friends? Or would you wait until 6th grade entering Middle School in the neighborhood?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-46450632135005455662014-09-01T22:44:00.587-07:002014-09-01T22:44:00.587-07:00I think the assignment to Garfield will continue t...I think the assignment to Garfield will continue to apply - they're just admitting there's no specific HC program there. This makes it much easier to drop the Garfield assignment if that is necessary for capacity management at some point. <br /><br />Students identified in high school won't get any services. Extra attention from a counselor who has 400 students in their caseload? Worthless. There's no chance the Selection Committee will admit a student's needs can't be met at their neighborhood school. Where - by the way - there won't be an HC peer group as they will all have been stripped off prior to the 8h grade and funelled into Garfield and Ingraham. Lynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-29472765866359799682014-09-01T21:35:26.966-07:002014-09-01T21:35:26.966-07:00The HC designation sounds pretty meaningless in te...The HC designation sounds pretty meaningless in terms of services for newly identified high school students. Notification to counselors and teachers? That's it? You don't need HC designation to access AP classes, so really, what services are being provided?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-8458293073785675892014-09-01T21:15:55.153-07:002014-09-01T21:15:55.153-07:00from the FAQ page:
Testing Older Students
Is eli...from the FAQ page:<br />Testing Older Students<br /><br /><br />Is eligibility testing available for eighth-graders? Yes. The Accelerated International <br /> Baccalaureate program (IBX) at Ingraham High School requires students to qualify for Highly Capable Services in order to enroll. Eighth-graders who do not wish to enter IBX may still be tested for Highly Capable eligibility at their neighborhood high school. Eligibility testing is not required for entry into the standard International Baccalaureate program (offered at Sealth, Ingraham and Rainier Beach) or to access Advanced Placement courses (offered at nine high schools in the district), but counseling and other supports are available Districtwide for Highly Capable high school students.<br /><br />Is it possible to test and become eligible for the Highly Capable designation after eighth grade? Yes. A testing opportunity will be offered during the second semester for students in Grades 9-12. Highly Capable eligibility flags a student for attention by the school counselor and notifies teachers of potential special needs. It does not provide access to a different high school, unless the Multidisciplinary Selection Committee determines that the student's needs cannot be met at the assigned high school.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-91595962503264260952014-09-01T18:06:15.257-07:002014-09-01T18:06:15.257-07:00Re: Garfield omission from program sites.
If you ...Re: Garfield omission from program sites.<br /><br />If you click through the information on the site, it states that students are automatically assigned to GHS from the three middle schools. Has anyone contacted the office to ask that it be corrected to include GHS on the first page of the AL web page?<br /><br />irkedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-55891204537421365272014-09-01T16:27:00.173-07:002014-09-01T16:27:00.173-07:00The omission of Garfield is not a change in sites ...The omission of Garfield is not a change in sites or in policy but simply an omission. Look for an update soon.<br /><br />Jeanne Thompson<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649338642905686469.post-34296862755338198452014-09-01T15:04:43.140-07:002014-09-01T15:04:43.140-07:00The district also did not prioritize telling paren...The district also did not prioritize telling parents about a major change to a long standing program. It's much better to allow the parents to have the element of surprise so they can really enjoy the last minute, unannounced change.<br /><br />Yes, Ingraham is a haul for large parts of the city, and IBX is not for every kid. <br /><br />How equal really are the high schools when it comes to AP offerings? From my understanding (I don't have a kid in HS quite yet), Roosevelt is the only school that is similar to Garfield. Many APP kids (mine included) have no access to either school based on address.<br /><br />-pickle<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com